Question:
dotA Razor or Mirana Item build help?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
dotA Razor or Mirana Item build help?
Four answers:
elwell
2017-01-12 11:19:01 UTC
attempt my razor build: (beginning products: +2x Tango +3x Iron timber branches +a million Gauntlet of power) Get boots next and end of two bracers which will help razor in survivability; bracers are in all likelihood all you decide on until late activity. Then end power treads (agility or str). next merchandise to get is Radiance. Butterfly and Mjolnir make Razor attack rapid, yet razor already gets an extremely nifty IAS from frenzy, and dosnt choose better attack speed from yet of mjolnir. What he desires extra is dmg to maximize IAS from frenzy and radiance fits his desires, as nicely as including sparkle injury which artwork nicely with typhoon seeker so which you would be able to run down enemies with your severe ms and likewise make an impact in team fights (a hundred dmg each 3 secs from ulti+ 35 dps from radiance). After radiance, get Sange & Yasha, with yasha first. this is taken into consideration needed to the build because of the fact the maim is the sole sluggish your going to get. The sluggish facilitates with chasing. The maim is easy to procur considering the fact that razor's attack speed with frenzy is so rapid. (maim with S&Y is a 10% danger, and with your attack speed you would be maiming in lots of cases). the activity would desire to end around this time, yet whilst it is going added i propose attack cuirass or Buriza to the build. stable success.
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2016-12-08 20:22:53 UTC
Dota Troll Item Build
hoven
2011-02-23 07:23:18 UTC
Troll is difficult to beat 1v1, you have to introduce the element of surprise to have a chance to win him. The heroes you used, razor and mirana both have low hp and i'd say they stand no chance with troll.

As for me, here are a few heroes i will choose if i were you::

- Chaos knight

- Ursa

- Faceless Void

- Naga Siren

- Pandaren (Able to beat any heroes if you know how to use it)



I would say troll biggest weakness is clones and stun. Chaos knight have both of them, just use your ultimate skill (clones) before engaging, stun him and blink strike to him and cross your finger your stun last long enough and he hits the clone instead of you.



Ursa, you will have to buy blink dagger, overpower (wait till the cooldown reaches 0 before engaging), ultimate, blink in and whack him and cross your finger, because after your double overpower combo is finished, there is little chance of winning him.



The rest of the heroes depend on clones really, which i will say is the biggest weakness of troll. Naga Siren is particularly strong in late game IMO, clone, net, more clones from manta style + basher.



Also if you know how to use pandaren, it will beat any heroes hands down, except for the ones able to escape.



I would highly recommend naga siren or chaos knight, but be sure to farm quickly before him. Get basher for both of the heroes.

Naga Siren important items- manta, diffusal blade, basher or hex (hex will give you a few precious seconds, great for any 1v1 game, but expensive)

Chaos knight - manta (use it if your ultimate finishes or in cooldown), basher, hex



EDIT:: Also remember to check for runes(spawn every 2 minutes), and get it as often as possible.



EDIT:: Razor WON"T stand a chance against troll, let me tell you why.

Typical troll item build (at least for me) - power threads, lothar, satanic, buriza and some other hp items. (not in any order)

You do know razor have a very low hp, so does troll, but troll has an advantage of blinding the enemy, making your hits miss sometimes. If i were the troll, i would change to melee form, lothar behind the enemy, ultimate and start whacking, razor won't even have time to react. Blademail? Sure, activate satanic or don't whack at all for a few seconds, he will regain the hp loss quickly.

Even if razor carries a gem of true sight and start whacking troll, troll could blind and razor have a 44% chance of missing a hit, that's about 1 in 2 hits. Once troll have go up close to you, you're dead in less than 10 seconds. Maybe manta would help (for any heroes), but it really depends on luck, don't forgot the clones receive extra damage together with razor low hp, the clone will die off pretty fast.
Reason
2011-02-23 19:41:52 UTC
Pick razor to counter troll, since you know how to use it. It's the best semi carry for the current metagame. And your build is VERY wrong for a razor, even in 1v1.



I assume you start with 803 gold, and not 4200. So starting:

Chicken

1 Salve

3 GG branches



Harrass him as you have the superior range advantage. Skill build is just Plasma and Static Link alternatively, get Eye of Storm when you can. DON'T go Maelstrom, they suck on razor, who is a anti-carry.



Early:

Bottle

Boots

Magic Stick (if you're doing well)

Chicken -> Crow



Make use of Plasma Field. Move back to your max range, hit troll, and cast it (you can start spamming from level 3.



When troll moves back, move forward a little such that the Plasma Field 2nd damage also hits him. Rinse and Repeat, you will have lane dominance.

If Troll moves forward instead, then you move back a little and cast static link. Continue hitting him, I guarantee you will win if he don't move back. And you'll be at a health advantage too.

At later a point of the game, cast Eye of Storm when he comes to you, too. Don't save it, it has a rather short cooldown.



When to go to take runes? When you creeps are across the river, and have just killed the opponent's creep wave. Use crow to Scout for the runes



When to activate blademail?

When Troll moves into melee/perma stun mode, immediately turn it on and Shift-queue Static Link. He won't stand a chance.



Mid:

Boots -> Phase Boots

(If you have 2200 gold by the 10th min mark, save for Relic -> Radiance instead)

Vanguard

Blademail

(Grats, you just finished your core items)



Mid-late:

From now, it should be obvious who is winning. Don't let your guard down though, you have to continue to last hit and deny. Don't ever leave your lane when your creeps are engaged with the enemy creeps, because that's free money for you.



Luxury:

Satanic (makes you quite godly)

Butterfly (evasion, attack speed, damage)

Manta Style (Yes, it doesn't cover you, but you will like the extra damage)



EDIT, with regards to the poster above me:

Can't you ******* buy sentries or gem? Are you retarded? Lothar is useless in high level games, I never seen it used, because it's so easily countered. If my opponent troll somehow manages to farm a lothar, I can guarantee you I will win. Do you want a 1v1 simulation now?

Can you even farm with razor controlling the lane? I assure you, you won't even reach lothar if you play against me, or any other average players.

Don't whack at all for a few seconds? It doesn't matter actually. Your damage will diminish at the rate of 20 damage/second, and I will gain 20 damage/second. You will still die, whether you hit me when I turn on blademail or not. Even with a 44% miss rate, I still will ultimately gain 11 damage/second, while you lose 20 damage per second. Lothar away and fight later? I have sentries or dust. Lothar has extra speed? Plasma field hits you on the edge, and you die anyway.

Tell me that AFTER you managed to farm satanic

Clones, unlike for other illusion heroes like PL, is NOT for covering. It's for extra damage, since it's rather obvious which is the real razor. Can you take me hitting you at 250 damage per hit, + 50 damage *2 from both illusions? It doesn't matter whether you use blind or not.



Oh, and in case you never realised, Troll's real advantage is not blind, but it's perma bash. If you choose to get blind instead, I assure you, you will lose to me before you reach level 7. Troll has no lane control, no nukes, and no stun unless he goes to melee range of Razor -- in which case, read above.


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